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Veronica Gedeon & the Easter Sunday Murders (Part 2) | Morbid | Podcast
On the afternoon of March 28, 1937, Easter Sunday, Joseph Gedeon and his daughter, Ethel, arrived at the home of Gedeon’s wife, Mary, for a planned Easter dinner. The Gedeon’s had been separated for some time but had agreed to have dinner together as a family, which included their other daughter, Veronica, a moderately successful pulp magazine model. When they entered the apartment, it appeared as though no one was home; however, upon checking the bedroom where his daughter slept, Joseph Gedeon found the nude body of his daughter lying lifeless on the bed and immediately called the police.
During an initial search of the apartment, investigators found the body of Mary Gedeon stuffed under her bed; like her daughter, she had been strangled to death. In a third bedroom, police also found the body of Mary’s boarder, Frank Byrnes, who’d been stabbed several times in the head and neck with a long, thin implement. There was no sign of a forced entry, no sign of a struggle, and nothing appeared to be missing from the apartment. Given that Veronica had been found nude, and Mary was clothed but her underwear had been torn away, investigators assumed the murders were a sex crime.
Still caught in the grip of the Great Depression, New Yorkers welcomed anything that could distract from the unpleasant realities of daily life and the salacious murder of a pulp magazine model-a sex crime, no less-was exactly what they were looking for. The story dominated the press, as reporters and tabloid journalists dug into Veronica’s personal life and dating history and published lurid photos from her past. But when the killer was finally caught and the motive revealed, the story was far stranger and tragic than anyone had imagined.
Thank you to the wonderful David White of the Bring Me the Axe Podcast for research!
References
Brooklyn Daily Eagle. 1937. "Cops question ex-lodger in triple murder." Brooklyn Daily Eagle, March 29: 1.
-. 1937. "Doubts student is killer." Brooklyn Daily Eagle, April 6: 1.
-. 1938. "Irwin's guilty plea." Brooklyn Daily Eagle, November 15: 10.
Buffalo Evening News. 1938. "Irwin, ruled insane, sent to Dannemora." Buffalo Evening News, December 10: 1.
2015. A Crime to Remember. Directed by Jeremiah Crowell. Performed by Jeremiah Crowell.
New York Daily News. 1937. "3 murdered in model's flat." New York Daily News, March 29: 1.
-. 1937. "Gray hair in model's hand chief clue in triple murder." New York Daily News, March 30: 1.
-. 1937. "Willful Ronnie 'made fools of men,' dad says." New York Daily News, March 30: 3.
New York Times. 1938. "139-year sentence imposed on Irwin." New York Times, November 29: 48.
-. 1937. "Fingerprint clues found at scene of triple murder." New York Times, March 31: 1.
-. 1937. "Gedeon gets bail." New York Times, April 3: 1.
-. 1937. "Gedeon questioned again in murders; solution held near." New York Times, April 1: 1.
-. 1937. "Irwin flown here; boasts of killings." New York Times, June 28: 1.
-. 1937. "Irwin, wild-eyed, meets reporters." New York Times, September 1: 20.
-. 1937. "Women jam court to glimpse Irwin." New York Times, Jukly 1: 56.
People v. Robert Irwin. 1938. 166 Misc. 751 (Court of General Sessions of the County of New York, March 24).
Schechter, Harold. 2014. The Mad Sculptor: The Maniac, the Model, and the Murder That Shook the Nation. Boston, MA: New Harvest.
United Press. 1937. "Sculptor hunted as triple killer in Gedeon cases." Buffalo Evening News, April 5: 1.
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Veronica Gedeon & the Easter Sunday Murders (Part 1) Morbid | Podcast
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On the afternoon of March 28, 1937, Easter Sunday, Joseph Gedeon and his daughter, Ethel, arrived at the home of Gedeon’s wife, Mary, for a planned Easter dinner. The Gedeon’s had been separated for some time but had agreed to have dinner together as a family, which included their other daughter, Veronica, a moderately successful pulp magazine model. When they entered the apartment, it appeared...
The Kidnapping & Murder of Marion Parker (Part 2) | Morbid | Podcast
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A massive interstate search was launched to find Marion’s killer and within a few days, police arrested nineteen-year-old William Edward Hickman, a former co-worker of Perry Parker. During his interrogation, Hickman confessed to kidnapping and murdering Marion, claiming that a god he referred to as “Providence” had instructed him to do it. That confession prompted Hickman’s attorneys to take ad...
The Kidnapping & Murder of Marion Parker (Part 1) | Morbid | Podcast
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On the afternoon of December 15, 1927, twelve-year-old Marion Parker was checked out of her Los Angeles junior high school by a man claiming to be an employee of her father, Perry Parker, an employee at a bank in the city. The man claimed Parker had been in an accident and he was to bring the girl to see her father, but this was just a ruse to abduct the girl. The following day, Marion’s parent...
Heavenly Creatures: The Parker-Hulme Murder | Morbid | Podcast
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On the afternoon of June 22, 1954, Agnes Ritchie was preparing ice cream for two customers in her shop when two teenage girls, Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme, burst through the front door, screaming for help and saying one of their mothers had been killed. Agnes and her husband followed the girls into the nearby wooded area, where they found the badly beaten and obviously dead body of Honorah ...
The Murder Of Jack Wilson | Morbid | Podcast
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On the evening of May 22, 1992, Betty Wilson returned home from an AA meeting to find her husband, Dr. Jack Wilson, had been beaten and stabbed to death in what she assumed was a burglary gone wrong. Betty ran to a neighbor’s house to call 911, and police arrived at the Wilson’s house a short time later to secure the scene. At first, investigators agreed with Betty’s theory that Jack had surpri...
“Weirdos’ Audiobook Club” presented by Audible - Desperate Deadly Widows with Guest, Sheena Melwani
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Weirdos!! It’s a SPECIAL BONUS EPISODE brought to YOU by our friends at Audible! Today we’re joined by Sheena Melwani to chat about the Audible original, “Desperate Deadly Widows”! Join the “Weirdos’ Audiobook Club’ AND the conversation as we talk about our favorite characters, themes, and scenes! Haven’t listened yet? Don’t worry about it, friend! Go to Audible.com/weirdos for YOUR free trial!...
Listener Tales 86 | Morbid | Podcast
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It’s Listener Tales 86 This week’s episode is brought to you by... Dads, coffee cups, and whoppers! We hear about an encounter with big foot, an EVP from a ghost hunt at a cemetery, dreams haunted by a pregnant woman, and the underlying story of the crime that lead to hauntings at the Field farm! If you’ve got a listener tale please send it on over to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with “Listener Tale...
Fred & Rose West (Part 4) | Morbid | Podcast
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Part four focuses on Fred & Rose West's final crimes, and the events leading up to their arrest. Their subsequent trials would become the focus of the nation as people learned of the atrocities performed at their home. Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research! References Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. www.thegua...
Fred & Rose West (Part 3) | Morbid | Podcast
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Part three focuses on the pattern formed by the West's subsequent murders, as well as a hiatus from killing that was marked by countless sexual assaults. Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research! References Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/may/11/features11.g2. BBC News. 1998. ...
Fred & Rose West (Part 2) | Morbid | Podcast
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Part two delves into Fred's life after he met Rose, exploring the origins of the affair leading to their marriage and the beginning of the sadistic crimes that would horrify the world at large. Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research! References Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. www.theguardian.com/theguardian/200...
Fred & Rose West (Part 1) | Morbid | Podcast
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In this four part series, we dive into the horrific crimes of Fred & Rose West. We begin by exploring Fred's formative years which laid a foundation for his callousness and depraved appetites. Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research! References Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000...
A Deeper Look at the Crimes of Joran Van Der Loot With Christopher Cassel | Morbid | Podcast
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We are joined by Christopher Cassel, Director of 'Pathological: The Lies of Joran Van Der Sloot', We discuss his documentary which dives deep into the crimes of the Van Der Sloot, and the countless people his actions have negatively impacted. Want to see the documentary? Stream it now on Peacock! Connect with Wondery wondery.com/shows WonderyMedia WonderyMedia instagram...
The Murder of Natalee Holloway | Morbid | Podcast
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On the afternoon of May 30, 2005, the senior students from Mountain Brook High School gathered at the airport in Aruba to make their return flight to Alabama after their celebratory trip, when chaperones noticed that one of the students was missing. Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway was last seen around 1:30 am that morning, leaving a bar with a student from the local International School of A...
“Jolly Jane” Toppan: Angel of Mercy (Part 2) | Morbid | Podcast
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Considered among the first (and certainly the most prolific) American female serial killers and so-called angels of mercy, Jane Toppan’s killing spree went unnoticed for more than fifteen years, as she transitioned from one hospital to another, leaving an unprecedented trail of carnage in her wake. Jane was finally arrested in 1901, after killing the entire family of a man for whom she’d been h...
“Jolly Jane” Toppan Angel of Mercy (Part 1) | Morbid | Podcast
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“Jolly Jane” Toppan Angel of Mercy (Part 1) | Morbid | Podcast
The Murder of Timothy Coggins | Morbid | Podcast
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The Murder of Timothy Coggins | Morbid | Podcast
Listener Tales 85 | Morbid | Podcast
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Listener Tales 85 | Morbid | Podcast
The Glove Guy (With Jordan Bonaparte from The Night Time Podcast) | Morbid | Podcast
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The Glove Guy (With Jordan Bonaparte from The Night Time Podcast) | Morbid | Podcast
The Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders | Morbid | Podcast
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The Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders | Morbid | Podcast
Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainfield (Part 3) | Morbid | Podcast
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Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainfield (Part 3) | Morbid | Podcast
Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainfield (Part 2) | Morbid | Podcast
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Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainfield (Part 2) | Morbid | Podcast
Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainfield (Part 1) | Morbid | Podcast
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Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainfield (Part 1) | Morbid | Podcast
Marie Robards | Morbid | Podcast
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Marie Robards | Morbid | Podcast
Happy Land Social Club Arson | Morbid | Podcast
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Happy Land Social Club Arson | Morbid | Podcast
Listener Tales 84 | Morbid | Podcast
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Listener Tales 84 | Morbid | Podcast
The Lipstick Killer (Part 2) | Morbid | Podcast
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The Lipstick Killer (Part 2) | Morbid | Podcast
The Lipstick Killer (Part 1) | Morbid | Podcast
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The Lipstick Killer (Part 1) | Morbid | Podcast
Lizzie Borden and other Dark Nursery Rhymes (with Special Guests - Two Girls One Ghost) | Morbid
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Lizzie Borden and other Dark Nursery Rhymes (with Special Guests - Two Girls One Ghost) | Morbid
Matthew Wales and the Society Murders | Morbid | Podcast
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Matthew Wales and the Society Murders | Morbid | Podcast

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  • @angelique2150
    @angelique2150 2 години тому

    I'm sad Brandi's friend Liz was killed. I couldn't imagine if something happened to my sweetheart sister Savannah. I wouldn't want to be alive if my sister wasn't.

  • @angelique2150
    @angelique2150 2 години тому

    This really makes me feel like crying.

  • @CinnBunny
    @CinnBunny 4 години тому

    Fuck yea morbid!

  • @daisyzendejas1361
    @daisyzendejas1361 6 годин тому

    I think he would have killed her regardless he just wanted to make a statement

  • @madilynpeters3684
    @madilynpeters3684 9 годин тому

    i hate how many negative comments there are about the conversation before the stories it’s literally a podcast ,,, it’s supposed to just be people talking, you people make no sense if you want to just hear facts of cases watch a documentary damn.

  • @madilynpeters3684
    @madilynpeters3684 10 годин тому

    I work at a nursing home and during my shift i just listen to these podcasts and it makes my day go by so quickly , they’re so nice to listen to even if the subjects are morbid

  • @YoitsRose
    @YoitsRose 11 годин тому

    Salad😂😂 Love the coverage as always, great job ladies

  • @CarlJohnson-kd7lb
    @CarlJohnson-kd7lb 19 годин тому

    Doppelgängers are usually a very ominous sign. You will be in my spells, good luck!

  • @henzlee2137
    @henzlee2137 19 годин тому

    Just started this video, took about a Month break because I was having nightmares of the episodes I was listening too.....ha.....and weirdly excited to catch back up!!

  • @stevejohansen5373
    @stevejohansen5373 22 години тому

    I grew up in Santa Rosa and despite being ruled out my law enforcement I as well as other people I know theorized that Ted Bundy is the hitchhiker murderer.

  • @Trstevens318
    @Trstevens318 23 години тому

    Gein is probably the most interesting killer ive learned about so far. Other good contenders for that spot are Dean Corll, Pedro Lopez, Carl Panzram, and Ivan Milat. Thats my top 5 lol as weird as that sounds 😅

  • @sydneyhutter6219
    @sydneyhutter6219 День тому

    I’ve been sooo excited for this part 2! Love you both 😍🎉

  • @kandyharris2195
    @kandyharris2195 2 дні тому

    Just binged all 5 episodes today while cleaning my house , doing laundry and mowing my entire lawn ( took me 3 hrs to mow and yes I'm hella sore at 62 years on earth ) Love your MORBID stories , so excited to find y'all . Keeping it weird but not too weird. ❤

  • @constrictedpython2034
    @constrictedpython2034 2 дні тому

    Just binged all 4 episodes, was doing good until halfway through #3, this case is crazy rough. It's humbling in a fked up way, just knowing that my life hasn't been bad at all in comparison. I feel a new level of appreciation for the people in my life and another reason to be wary of others. Thankyou both for making these podcasts. You pull me and so many others through.

  • @SkylarCeballos-io8mm
    @SkylarCeballos-io8mm 4 дні тому

    Jaw in the GROUND as you finished

  • @melissaking6019
    @melissaking6019 4 дні тому

    This is so much like the heinous, vicious murder of James Byrd in 1998 in Texas. Race hatred seems to be built into Southern culture and it didn't stop post Civil War or during the Civil Rights movement. It's still very much alive. Bias against anyone is deliberately taught.

  • @calebgates2538
    @calebgates2538 4 дні тому

    Alaina I feel you so hard on the movie and tv quotes sticking in your mind... It's got to pay off someday

  • @josephbletsas6314
    @josephbletsas6314 4 дні тому

    I have a serious feeling that was Grant imitating Chad when calling Cody and Grant texting Sloan back minutes later.

  • @catherineboone4921
    @catherineboone4921 4 дні тому

    Ash! Yes with the birds-it happened about 10 x last night to me in maine!

  • @thatmombielife
    @thatmombielife 5 днів тому

    I befriended a crow at our pool by feeding him a shrimp. I named him CARRRLLL

  • @stephenyann6953
    @stephenyann6953 5 днів тому

    It's here it's in Nevada lol the wonderful morman cricket 🤢

  • @kimberlyjeffries325
    @kimberlyjeffries325 5 днів тому

    Good morning gals💙

  • @joannahall7414
    @joannahall7414 5 днів тому

    I've had Plueurisy...horribly painful 😒

  • @KerrieKruegner
    @KerrieKruegner 5 днів тому

    Horrible case Crazy trail This guy is doing himself in by his own hubris Thinks he’s smart but so dumb So sad for the family who were let down by the school police press and to an extent the public(hoaxes really)?!?! People suck 😡 At least their was justice in the end and yes some people are just wrong they have no reason no mental illness no motive Not than any motive would excuse this sick cruel crime

  • @ssdeathsquad88
    @ssdeathsquad88 5 днів тому

    These girls are so lost and have zero knowledge of what Satanist think and do, lmao 😂 they dnt Believe in any one diety? That's them pushing their narrative cuz u are naive and well I won't say more.

  • @KerrieKruegner
    @KerrieKruegner 5 днів тому

    I’m sorry these people should definitely called out I know it was a different time but common sense All the misinformation and ignorance of the person said to be trusted with picking her up. I’m mean immediately when stated that the father wanted his daughter we all immediately said/ thought “only One “?! This teacher was beyond stupid and negligent If she was dealing with a student making a case for not doing homework she would of seen through the holes and spotted the red flags if a student was putting a a story out like that to get out of school Then not checking ringing home qualifying anything and putting the other child at risk and anxiety waiting for her sister not bothering to inform her that her sister had already left And yes the 1920s but there had been infamous well known child kidnap cases that were in the public’s psyche Fustrating and tragic😢

  • @Dragongurlwings123
    @Dragongurlwings123 5 днів тому

    Omg I love this and would love to tell a story about my ghost story (you can use my name) it will be in the reply’s

  • @serenacronk5799
    @serenacronk5799 6 днів тому

    I know this episode is from a year ago but the discussion about people tearing others down makes me think of how haters are treating Taylor Swift and wishing her ill will and commenting hate on any post about her. I don’t understand hating someone who brings so much joy to people that you feel the need to waste your time talking shit online.

  • @jaclynolson5260
    @jaclynolson5260 6 днів тому

    Hi ladies! Any plans on covering Israel Keys?

  • @homelessduck4004
    @homelessduck4004 6 днів тому

    😨

  • @jordyngomez9490
    @jordyngomez9490 6 днів тому

    Hey girls I wanted to ask if you had an email I can reach you??? I'm a long time listener and have a very personal case and I know one of you is a mortician ( yes how am i a long time Lister but I don't remember who is the mortician lol bad memory sorry girls!!!!) I just have some questions.... I found the courage to send this message and just want some other opinions or maybe a different outcome of my situation.

    • @jaimiecarpediemer
      @jaimiecarpediemer День тому

      I think list their email address on listener tale episodes

  • @Catrionaannegray
    @Catrionaannegray 6 днів тому

    Hi Alaina and Ash keep it up please check out this story Lizzie Borden.

  • @ravennevermore1867
    @ravennevermore1867 7 днів тому

    This is so scary

  • @jaimiecarpediemer
    @jaimiecarpediemer 7 днів тому

    I thought for sure it was gonna turn out that Betty was pretending to be Peggy, too.

  • @rachealhayes3309
    @rachealhayes3309 7 днів тому

    Y'all should do Richard Evonitz. His ex wife is still alive and is an author who's been telling her story of being married to a serial killer. Would be an awesome interview!

  • @Jess-yb4xr
    @Jess-yb4xr 7 днів тому

    Love this show but so frustrating how they always ruin it in the beginning. I'm going to see how many episodes I can search for to find one where they don't ruin the story in the first 5 minutes by telling you what's going to happen. If I can make it to 10 episodes of them ruining the whole story in the first 5 min then I'm switching to a different podcast..

  • @Jess-yb4xr
    @Jess-yb4xr 7 днів тому

    I love listening to them but I hate when they ruin the episode in the very beginning by telling you what's going to happen. Leave us a little suspense! I don't even want to finish listening to it. Guess I'll look for another episode....

  • @ehsh3072
    @ehsh3072 7 днів тому

    OF COURSE, I DONT KNOW FOR SURE WHAT HAPPENED AND UNFORTUNATELY IT MAY NEVER BE SOLVED TO OUR LIKING BUT...THIS IS MY THEORY. FOR A LITTLE WHILE I HAD THOUGHT IT WAS THE SON. HE ACTED LIKE A LITTLE ALOOF BRAT, HE HAD A TEMPER AND WAS JEALOUS OF THE ATTENTION SHE GOT, SINCE I BELIEVE IT WAS A FAMILY MEMBER, HE HAD THE MOTIVE OF THOSE THINGS AND ALSO COULD HAVE BEEN MOLESTING HER OR HURT HER FOR WETTING THE BED OR IN A FIGHT. MORBID I KNOW BUT THERE IS NO ONE ELSE THAT THE RAMSEYS WOULD EVER COVER UP THIS MURDER FOR EXCEPT THEIR SON. AND SOMEONE IS COVERING IT UP. BUT.... JOHN RAMSEY WOULD COVER UP FOR PATSY!! SHE WAS HIS SECOND WIFE, HIS YOUNGER, BEAUTY QUEEN TROPHY WIFE HE ADORED. AND BESIDES HIS SON WHO I COULD GO EITHER WAY WITH, JON WOULD DEFINITELY PROTECT HER WITH HIS LIFE EVEN WHEN HIS OWN DEAR DAUGHTER WAS THE VICTIM AND HE WAS DEVASTATED. OF COURSE MAYBE HE DIDNT LOVE JON BENET AND DIDNT CARE. BUT THERE IS NO REASON TO THINK THAT AND I ACTUALLY THINK HE LOVED HIS CHILDREN. I DO NOT THINK THAT PATSY WOULD BE WILLING TO COVER FOR JOHN IF HE WAS THE KILLER BC HER DAUGHTER WAS MURDERED AND IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE A CASE OF MOLESTATION OR JOHN BEING DISCOVERED TO BE A MONSTER. SO PATSY WOULD COVER UP FOR HER SON AND WOULD FOR SURE TRY TO SAVE HERSELF REGARDLESS OF HOW SHE FELT ABOUT JON BENET. AND JOHN WOULD SAVE HIS FAMILY. SO AFTER ALL THAT EXPLANATION, THIS IS MY BASIC THEORY. ITS WHAT I IMAGINE HAPPENED THOUGH I CAN SEE PATSY BEING SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PERSONALITIES, HIDDEN OR KNOWN AND ALSO THE DAD AND SON POTENTIALLY BEING GOOD OR BAD. BUT ILL JUST GO WITH MY FIRST THEORY WHILE ACKNOWLEDGING IT COULD ALL BE DIFFERENT BASED ON WHETHER I WAS WRONG ABOUT THEIR MOTIVATIONS, EMOTIONAL STATES, AND IF THEY WERE EVIL PSYCHOPATHS OR DECENT HUMANS. SO I THINK PATSY WAS A LIFELONG BEAUTY PAGEANT LADY, REALLY INTO THE GLAMOUR ETC AND WHEN SHE WAS DONE SHE WANTED HER DAUGHTER TO BE LIKE SHE HAD BEEN SO SHE COULD SHOW HER OFF BUT ALSO LIVE VICARIOUSLY THROUGH HER TOO. SHE DID HAVE LOVE FOR HER BUT COMPLETE SELFLESS LOVE WAS NOT THERE BC SHE WAS TOO COMPETITIVE WITH JON BENET FOR THE PAGEANT LIFE AND ALSO FOR JONS AFFECITION AND ATTENTION. I THINK SHE WAS MORE AND MORE SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION AND POSSIBLE BOUTS OF MENTAL ILLNESS, SEVERE OR NOT, AND JOHN WAS VERY DOTING ON HER AND ALSO HIS KIDS BUT ALSO TRIED TO PROTECT THEM FROM BEING TALKED ABOUT OR PEOPLE KNOWING THEIR PERSONAL LIVES. PATSY WAS JEALOUS OF JON BENET AND THAT COUPLED WITH JON BENET BEING A BED WETTER, MAYBE A BIT BRATTY, ETC CAUSED PATSY TO DISCIPLINE HER AT TIMES, MAYBE HARSHLY, MAYBE SPANKINGS AND A FEELING THAT IT WAS A LITTLE INAPPROPRIATE, THAT THERE WAS ALMOST A SEXUALIZATION OF JON BENET. PAGEANTS DO THAT EVEN TO LITTLE GIRLS, SHOW THEM AS MADE UP TINY WOMEN AND THE GIRLS PERFORM LIKE STARLITS AND CANT HELP BUT BE EXPOSED TO ELEMENTS THAT TAKE AWAY INNOCENCE OF JUST BEING A LITTLE GIRL BEFORE PUBERTY. THE MAKEUP, THE DRESSES, THE DANCE AND SINGING, IT ALL IS PRECOCIOUS. SO PATSY WAS DEMANDING AND MAYBE PUSHED JON BENET TO LIKE IT MORE THAN SHE REALLY DID. MAYBE SHE DID LOVE IT TOO, WHO KNOWS BUT SHE FELT PRESSURE FROM HER MOM AND WANTED TO PLEASE HER. SHE ALSO WAS AFFECTED BY PATSYS BEHAVIOR HENCE THE BED WETTING AND OTHER SIGNS SHE WAS COVERTLY SEXUALIZED. IT IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILTY SHE WAS BEING MOLESTED BUT I DOUBT BY THE DAD, I DONT THINK PATSY WAS MOLESTING HER THOUGH I DO THINK THE WHOLE LIFESTYLE WAS A BIT TOO SEXUALIZING AND PATSY MAY HAVE USED BARE BUTT SPANKING OR SHAMING TO PUNISH. IF THE BROTHER WAS JEALOUS HE MAY HAVE ACTED OUT INAPPROPRIATELY TOWARDS JON BENET. I SAY IT COULD GO WITHER WAY, HE DOES SEEM LIKE A STRANGE, SOCIOPATHIC ODDBALL, THE CONSTANT SMILING WHEN DISCUSSING HIS SISTERS DEATH AND HIS LACK OF CARING. BUT OF THE THREE PATSY WAS THE ONE I THINK HAD RESENTMENT WITH JON BENET AND COUPLED WITH HER BOUTS OF MENTAL ILLNESS THE NIGHT THEY CAME HOME, AFTER JON BENET WENT TO BED SOMETHING OCCURRED. SHE EITHER GOT UP AND WOKE UP PATSY, MAYBE SHE WET THE BED, MAYBE SHE WAS HUNGRY, SHE ATE SOME PINEAPPLE SO IF I GO WITH THE THEORY IT WAS PATSY AND DISCDLUDE BURKE, SHE WAS UP AND MAYBE JON BENET WET THE BED, MADE A MESS, PATSY WAS MAYBE DRUNK, IN A BAD STATE, WHO KNOWS IF SHE WAS STRUGGLING WITH OTHER THINGS AND WHAT EVER WENT DOWN, SHE HURT JON BENET. SHE HIT HER, THREW HER, BEAT HER IN THE HEAD AND THOUGHT SHE HAD KILLED HER OR MORE LIKELY, KNEW SHE WAS NOT DEAD BUT COULDNT REVIVE HER AND KNEW THAT SHE COULD NOT GO TO THE HOSPITAL WITHOUT POSSIBLE CHARGES OF ABUSE. SHE WAS SCARED TO DEATH, FRANTIC AND RACKING HER BRAIN ABOUT WHAT TO DO. ILL CHOSE THE THEORY THAT SHE WOKE UP HER HUSBAND AND TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED. THEY HAD A TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO, A VERY EMOTIONAL MOMENT AND REALIZED THAT JON BENET WAS BADLY HURT, MAY NOT SURVIVE AND THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO RUIN THEIR FUTURES AND THEIR SON LOSE HIS MOM AND JON LOSE HIS WIFE AND HER BE IN PRISON IF THAT HAPPENED. OR MAYBE JUST THE REPUTATION THEY WOULD LOSE. POSSIBLY, JON BENET WAS COMATOSE AND THEY DECIDED THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE UP A STORY TO SAVE THEMSELVES BUT ALSO TO KEEP THE TRUTH FROM BURKE. SO, THEY CAME UP WITH A RANSOM STORY BUT COULDNT COME UP WITH A PLAN TO TAKE JON BENET OUT OF THE HOUSE OR DISPOSE OF HER OR ACTUALLY TAKE IT FURTHER TO PRETEND THERE WERE ACTUAL KIDNAPPERS BEYOND JUST THE NOTE. AND EITHER JON OR BOTH DECIDED THEY HAD TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SHE WAS KILLED BY A STRRANGER OR A SICKO AND THAT THE HEAD INJURY WOULD LEAD TO THEIR GUILT. SO THEY MADE THE GARROTTE THINKING IT WOULD SEEM LIKE A FOREIGN HIT SQUAD. THEY DIDNT PLAN AHEAD AS TO WHY JON BENET WAS LEFT IN THE HOUSE. AND PATSY IN HER ANXIETY AND FRIGHT USED HER OWN PAPER AND PEN, FORGOT TO THROW OUT THE MESS UP NOTES AND LEFT THEM IN THE GARBAGE, SHE TRIED TO DISGUISE HER WRITING BUT ITS IMPOSSIBLE WAS THINKING SO CRAZY THAT SHE RAMBLED ON UNLIKE A KIDNAPPER WOULD TYPICALLY DO. SHE USED TERMINOLOGY THAT WASNT FITTING FOR THEIR STORY, SHE CROSSED THINGS OUT, SHE MADE SO MANY DUMB MISTAKES LEAVING THAT NOTE AND ALSO NOT PUTTING HER HANDPRINTS ON IT AS IF SHE DIDNT BOTHER OT READ IT. THERE IS NO LOGICAL EXPLANATION FOR THE MISTAKE NOTES IN THE TRASH, THE LETTER BEING SO LONG AND FULL OF ODD WORDING, ANDIF IT HAD BEEN REAL KIDNAPPEWRS JON BENET WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LEFT THEIR WHICH ALSO POINTS TO THEIR GUILT. IN ANY OTHER SITUSATION WHERE THE POLICE ARENT FAMILY FRIENDS AND THE POSSIBLE SUSPECTS ARENT MILLIONAIRES THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO TRIAL FOR ONE OF THEM, MOST LIKELY PATSY OR BOTH HER AND JON AND WOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO CONVICT. THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO ARREST THEM AND CHARGE THEM BUT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO WALK BC MONEY AND POWER BUY PRIVELEGE AND CORRUPTION AND LACK OF VIRTUE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS WAS NOT PRESENT HERE. THEY NEVER SEARCHED THEIR HOUSE FOR HER, THEY DID WHAT THE KIDNAPPERS SAID NOT TO DO OR THEY WOULD KILL JON NEBET. JON FOUND HER COMNVENIENTLY AND NO ONE WILL KNOW HOW SHE WAS REALLY FOUND AND HE CONTAMINATED EVIDENCE CLEARLY ON PURPOSE. THEIR INTERVIEWS, THEIR ENTIRE SHOW POINTS TO A COVER UP TO SAVE PATSY OR MAYBE BURKE BUT DOUBR IT AND BURKE FIGURING IT OUT AS TIME WENT ON AND BEING SICKENED AND UNABLE TO SPEAK UP. OR IF HE DID IT HE IS A PSYCHOLOGICALLY SCREWED PERSON BUT A BOY THAT AGE ABLE TO GO WITHOUT A PEEP ALL THESE YEARS IF HE HAD DONE IT OR KNOWN IS NOT REALLY LIKELY. \SOP, YEAH, PATSY STAGED THE CRIME SCENE, JON SCREWED IT UP, THEY MADE SUCH GLARING MISTAKE S AND WERE PROTECTED WHILE EVERYONE KNEW THAT THEY MUST BE GUILTY. NO ONE BROKE INTO THAT BASEMENT. IF IT HAD BEEN SOMEONE ELSE, THE RAMSEYS WOULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING TO FIND THE KILLER AND CERTAINLY WOULD NOT HAVE LEFT THAT RASNSOM NOTE THERE. WISH THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING DEFINITIVE TO PROVE SHE REALLY DID IT. I HATE THINKING ITS TRUE BUT NOT HAVING THE REAL PROOF. I WANT TO KNOW FOR SURE SO I CAN PROCESS THIS AND GET ON WITH ITL. ITS SO DISTURBING. THE PAGEANT BUSINESS IS NOT FOR LITTLE KIDS AND JON BENET WOULD HAVE BEEN A WILD CHILD HAD SHE LIVED. PATSY MAY HAVE DONE IT ALL HERSELF ESCEPT THAT JOHN WOULD NEVER HAVE BELIEVED THAT ALL THAT HAPPENED BY A STRANGER AND HE WOULD HAVE HAD A MUCH MORE ANGRY REACTION AND TRIED TO FIND THE KILLER. HE IS ACTING LIKE HE IS TRYING TO HELP COVER UP SOMETHING, HIDE SOMEONE AND IT HAS TO BE ONLY ONE OF TWO PEOPLE. SORRY SO LONG. KIND OF LIKE PATSYS RANSOM NOTE. YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT SHE DID AND NOT READ IT. HA HA HA

  • @deannataylor5613
    @deannataylor5613 7 днів тому

    My grandpa lived down the street from him. I grew up hearing all about him.

  • @socaldeb
    @socaldeb 7 днів тому

    So sad. Poor little one and family 😔

  • @brendar9410
    @brendar9410 7 днів тому

    Tiniest fist bump with the biggest impact

  • @kandyharris2195
    @kandyharris2195 8 днів тому

    I've been waiting for this episode 🍿😢

  • @Brezzy369
    @Brezzy369 8 днів тому

    🩵🩵🩵

  • @balysse08
    @balysse08 8 днів тому

    I wasn't sure if anyone else caught this but as a 90s baby like Ash I couldn't help but make a connection I thought was fascinating. The girls were twins, born on October 11th, one girlie one a little more rough around the edges & their last name was Parker juuuuust like the twins in 'The Parent Trap'. Just thought I'd share. Love you girlies 🥰

  • @nickishropshire9449
    @nickishropshire9449 8 днів тому

    😂

  • @MrCraigblaze
    @MrCraigblaze 8 днів тому

    Thanks for the upload !!

  • @Teddybearferrin
    @Teddybearferrin 8 днів тому

    Holy shit I can’t even even begin to comprehend this

  • @macsauce137
    @macsauce137 9 днів тому

    Please post part 2 😭

  • @user-oe8bd7od6f
    @user-oe8bd7od6f 9 днів тому

    Omg it's on youtube too ?! so excited

  • @user-xc3kw9qm7e
    @user-xc3kw9qm7e 10 днів тому

    The first long-distance phone call occurred in New York from Bell to San Francisco and Watson in 1915, there may not have been a telephone call from the school to the bank at this time. Not every institution had phones? 16:21